Thread: 30k in the 40k narrative

ray is right to voice his opinion on not mixing

Well i don't want to derail this campaign thread any further than i already have. I can't make it this Satuday anyway and was probably the only one who was thinking about bringing something 30k. Everyone have fun this Saturday

well ray it sounds like there wont be any 30k there saturday so no reason to get alarmed

Forgive me for interjecting, but I was under the impression that 30k was a more potent version of 40k. Now, I will be the first to admit that I am a new and inexperienced player (not to mention I have never played a 30k game), but I do have access to all of the 30k supplements that have been released and I do peruse them often. Anyway, to me, it seems that 30k units are indeed more potent than your regular 40k units, but I freely admit I do not have a competitive eye when it comes to unit evaluation and list making. I usually try to stay on the fun and fluffy side of the game regardless. I do not know the rules on here for discussing units and characteristic values (some sites it isn't allowed) so I do not have anything I can post to fortify my opinion, and my opinion will have to suffice. Back to the topic at hand, off the bat and without deep thought the idea of playing against primarchs and infantry/vehicles that in a regular 40k game you either would never encounter or be limited to one as it would be a relic of the armoury but in 30k there would be no such limitations is indeed a scary prospect. I do understand that this is all in the interest of fun and it's purpose is to change things up and I have to commend the tournament manager for his efforts in making the scenarios that he has, but I must admit I am very tentative about the prospect of facing the full force of a Legiones Astartes army with a Primarch at its head. Sorry for being long winded, but I decided to come out of lurking and toss my two cents into the pot.

This is why I was hesitate to make that comment because other people have to state things that they have no clue about. Thanks Noodlers for seeing it as my opinion for that is what it was. I did enjoy the games I played in but I wont be able to play this week anyways due to my family and I moving soon. I just wanted to voice my opinion first and foremost. I have seen things like this turn players away from playing. Just like Warboel stated I have access to the books and all but I have not played a game of 30k yet but would like to. 40K on the other hand I have played it way too long and like seeing people do more with story. So again I am sorry if my opinion upset anyone but yet again it was mine not anyone elses.

Wow, there's a lot of fear of the unknown going on here. 30k units are nothing to fear guys anyone can find holes and abuse the system but 30k armies have less access to this than any 40k army.

There are quite a few people who have expressed interest in playing their 30k armies and they keep getting shut down by fear mongering and TOs. I created a narrative way to incorporate 30k into our campaign so they could have a place to play with their models and maybe put an end to the fear mongering. I have read the rules for most 30k armies and there is nothing broken about them unlike in 40k. If a bloodthirster isn't broken then neither is a primarch that costs 100+ points more.

Don't let fear of the unknown spoil a good time.

Originally Posted by Bal4eva

Wow, there's a lot of fear of the unknown going on here. 30k units are nothing to fear guys anyone can find holes and abuse the system but 30k armies have less access to this than any 40k army.

There are quite a few people who have expressed interest in playing their 30k armies and they keep getting shut down by fear mongering and TOs. I created a narrative way to incorporate 30k into our campaign so they could have a place to play with their models and maybe put an end to the fear mongering. I have read the rules for most 30k armies and there is nothing broken about them unlike in 40k. If a bloodthirster isn't broken then neither is a primarch that costs 100+ points more.

Don't let fear of the unknown spoil a good time.

OK I do not agree with this at all

First of all who are these few people. There are two people on this board who even have 30k armies and only one of them plays at wonkos.

Second of all people can have their opinion about not playing against 30k. You don't have to accuse them of fearmongering or try to shame them into doing it. They just may not want to and that is their god given right to feel that way.

It is your show and I did not say a word when you said 30k would be allowed. That is for two reasons the first is that it is your show and you make the rules and I respect that. The second is that I knew no-one would ever really do it.

But I have seen John be ridiculed because he is against it and now you are ridiculing ray for voicing his opinion too. Perhaps he was not very calm but I wish that any one who says they do not want to play against these non existent 30k armies would not get shamed or bullied into doing so.

Noodlers thanks you again and well I dont know how I was not clam but it is ok I understand. Sometimes when I type it comes across as something else.......

Yes you came in a little hot but that's OK I think people understood

Originally Posted by noodlers

OK I do not agree with this at all

First of all who are these few people. There are two people on this board who even have 30k armies and only one of them plays at wonkos.

Second of all people can have their opinion about not playing against 30k. You don't have to accuse them of fearmongering or try to shame them into doing it. They just may not want to and that is their god given right to feel that way.

It is your show and I did not say a word when you said 30k would be allowed. That is for two reasons the first is that it is your show and you make the rules and I respect that. The second is that I knew no-one would ever really do it.

But I have seen John be ridiculed because he is against it and now you are ridiculing ray for voicing his opinion too. Perhaps he was not very calm but I wish that any one who says they do not want to play against these non existent 30k armies would not get shamed or bullied into doing so.

First let me apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings with my post. I didn't specifically call anyone out so don't assume it was specifically directed at anyone. Second I am not trying to shame anyone into playing against a 30k army. There is uniformed fear of the unknown from anyone claiming that 30k armies are OP when compared to any 40K army. When the writers of 30K were asked if you could play 30K against 40K they said the 30K player would be at a disadvantage and should probably get additional points in order to play a fair game. I have addressed already any fluff concerns for the issue. Third I can think of 4 people at the last Wonkos narrative that have some form (maybe not a full 2000pts) of 30K army and I am all about letting people in who want to play.

Now if anyone with any army comes in with a broken list and is creating feelsy badsies I will talk to them and handle the situation just like I have in the past.

Please feel free to PM me with any further concerns you my have about this and we can discuss.