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    Oh, well then I don't think that fits at all. Only 3 people here have ever (and will ever) seen me cry, and given I was in the middle of a manic-depressive nervous breakdown, doesn't quite count.

    But I do find it amusing that so many here seem to be concerned about hurting my feelings - I am way tougher than almost any people here give me credit for. I get mad on behalf of others simply because I can take all the **** and not worry about the consequences.
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    And see - that is why I say 'friends' instead of friends

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    i think he meant QQ as in unexpectedly quitting

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    Erin, I understand dwindling patience. I am tired of people making excuses for others crappy behavior. I am tired of known cheaters being coddled like they are misguided children when in fact they should be treated like grown adults. As far as the complaining about OP armies. Do you even look at other forums? These same arguments are going on all over the 40K world. It's not an Austin thing it's a 40K thing. The Houston guys were arguing the other day about the same issues. The difference is they have tournaments where 5 Wraith Knights is an acceptable list. If that were the case here, I would be the one quitting. However, I wouldn't come on this forum and rage quit I would just stop showing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRP View Post
    Erin, I understand dwindling patience. I am tired of people making excuses for others crappy behavior. I am tired of known cheaters being coddled like they are misguided children when in fact they should be treated like grown adults. As far as the complaining about OP armies. Do you even look at other forums? These same arguments are going on all over the 40K world. It's not an Austin thing it's a 40K thing. The Houston guys were arguing the other day about the same issues. The difference is they have tournaments where 5 Wraith Knights is an acceptable list. If that were the case here, I would be the one quitting. However, I wouldn't come on this forum and rage quit I would just stop showing up.
    No, I spend very little time on other forums. I occasionally read the BOLS comments sections until I get aggravated with the overwhelming stupidity.

    I know it is a global thing though - but the point is, we can't change that. We all do have the capacity to work together and create something better than that here. Arguing about the issues just to vent frustration does nothing, but recognizing there are issues and trying to be creative and solve them by having rational discussions can. But you are right, things devolve too quickly, too often. Which is a lot of what I have been saying for months and months now, we can do better.

    Walking away is fine if that is what one wants to do - but then you create this void where people invent all sorts of false notions for why one left. Only reason I am addressing this here today is I won't allow people to characterize my decisions based on their false notions. I am trying to be very clear. If nobody cares, fine. But just leaving with no explanation doesn't do anything to make the underlying problems go away.
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    Leaving is leaving the reasons usually aren't remembered correctly anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodlers View Post
    i think he meant QQ as in unexpectedly quitting
    Then that is an even less concise version of events. I shouldn't have to post links, but I could - these things have been building for years, and the record is all there

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    and Brian - sorry, I know whenever anybody says something negative towards the community at large you take it personally. You shouldn't - a few people received a series of very nasty messages from me around the turn of the year when they made blanket statements about the community, and you in particular are the person I always point at to emphasize the fact when we use these monolithic terms a lot of good people get caught in the net. I have tried to avoid using the c-word and as much as possible, as well as anything that denotes I am pointing fingers at 'all' or even any 'one' in particular. It is possible I slipped up along the way.

    Like I said in my msg to you, I like the Jim's crowd, we have fun. I also know that within that crowd there are several who have opinions that never bother to express them at large. But, that group is only one piece of the whole - and as regards this forum, they comprise an even smaller piece as most don't bother weighing in on these things - but they should as those people are actually exactly those who have the experience to make things better and obviously know how to work out differences amicably (over chicken wings preferably).

    There is nothing personal in any of this - absolutely zero. Just my observations and suggestions. My opinions. If I had a problem with any one person, they'd have heard it by now in far less polite terms. As I said earlier - you're an absolute sweetheart. If this group was made up of Brian-clones, we would never need to have these discussions.

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