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    Lucius dreadnaught drop pod question?

    Was recently told that the dread pod was faq'd and the dreadnaught can no longer assault the turn it lands. I looked for all the faqs, and the only one I found that mentions it was the forgeworld on that said the rules for the pod had changed. Please forgive the not quite quote (from what I remember reading), but it said - The dread can assault the turn it disembarks. Note: this is different from the standard drop pod rules.

    Now I may be reading this wrong, but it sounds to me like the only change is having to roll for immobilization was eliminated, and you can still assault from the pod.

    I know the BRB says you can't assault from deep strike, but it also says specific rules trump general rules. This sounds like the IA Apocolypse rules would take precedent.

    Thoughts? Reasons?

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    Actual quote: "A dreadnought disembarking a Lucius Pattern Dreadnought Drop Pod can launch an assault the turn it does so. (Note this differs from the rules for normal drop pods.)"

    That sounds to me like you can still drop pod in and go right to face-punching.

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    The new rules are in the latest Imperial Armour Apocalypse book. The rule change is under the "Drop Pod Assault" special rule. It says "A unit that Deep Strikes via Drop Pod may not assault in the turn it arrives."

    It also says as soon as the Drop Pod is deployed, it's doors automatically open fully. That tells me the Dreadnought inside can be targeted by shooting attacks even if it doesn't disembark.

    So, there's pretty much no reason to take one. It really looks like GW is trying to completely get rid of assaults from deep strike. They even changed the new Blood Angels digital codex to bring their vanguard vets in line wtih the ones from the new Space Marine codex.
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    The dread also gains shrouded when in base contact with the pod though.

    But yes, GW has nerfed the living hell out of assaulting from reserve. Only one unit in the game can still do it that i am aware of, and that will change very soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldera02 View Post
    The dread also gains shrouded when in base contact with the pod though.

    But yes, GW has nerfed the living hell out of assaulting from reserve. Only one unit in the game can still do it that i am aware of, and that will change very soon.
    Yeah Ymgarls, and I'll bet that ability doesn't survive the new codex.

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    But the rule states it is different from a regular drop pod? Doesn't that change it?

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    Not with the apocalpyse version, it supercedes the imperial armour version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavematt View Post
    But the rule states it is different from a regular drop pod? Doesn't that change it?
    The rule I quoted is from the most recent version of the book, where in the Drop Pod Assault rule it specifically says that units cannot assault the turn they come in from Deep Strike via Drop Pod.

    Additionally, in the Assault Vehicle special rule section for the Lucius, that limitation is repeated: 'However, the Dreadnought may still not assault on the same turn the Drop Pod arrives from deep strike."

    It's good 'n nerfed, there is no more first-turn assault from the Lucius. It's a droppable 3-to-5+ cover save until it gets popped, which is probably what most players will do right before they then pop the dreadnought now that it has no cover save.

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    Ok, I have the IA Apocolypse 2nd ed, it doesn't change it there, and reading that rule and the FAQ was I guess where the confusion came from. Thank you GW for your crystal clear rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavematt View Post
    Ok, I have the IA Apocolypse 2nd ed, it doesn't change it there, and reading that rule and the FAQ was I guess where the confusion came from. Thank you GW for your crystal clear rules.
    Yeah, that rule book was superseded with the new one. Unfortunately for the owners of Lucius drop pods, the rules are clear this time around :-/

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