Thread: alamo lists and jive talk

Did they post scores?

Originally Posted by Goatboy

Did they post scores?

Not yet.

Originally Posted by CRP

Matt, the Red Star guys are saying that they were at the table on turn 2 and that the ruling was made real time. That doesn't explain why the scores were changed.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/3368...64023490028876

Absolute lie.

They weren't around until the start of 4 where my opponent was all but tabled and had already conceded 0-20.

If they are actually going to make up facts after the fact so they don't look bad they can go **** themselves.

Wow I think we are going to need to hear the whole story because some of us were slumming it on the middle tables and never wondered over to the top ones for the drama

Originally Posted by daKing

Wow I think we are going to need to hear the whole story because some of us were slumming it on the middle tables and never wondered over to the top ones for the drama

here is the the story.

On turn 1 I deployed 3 units and said "the rest of my army is coming in on turn 2 if you don't table me". (My only mistake was that I never declared how)

Turn 2 comes around and I start deep striking everyone with deep strike. My opponent was caught a bit off guard because he didn't realize I was going to deep strike everything. My fault there, so I apologized and told him I meant to deep strike everything but I can come in from reserves if he wanted to. He said it was fine to deep strike everything just remember next time with no arguments. Simple mistake, simple apology, simple resolution, no problems. Nothing special.

The problem started when in his turn 4 when my opponent realized I had gained the upper hand and was going to win and decided to just concede 0-20(it wasn't even close), and after conceding he expressed that things might have gone differently and was a bit salty about it but at the same time accepted his loss. That is of course when a random judge came around and overheard and asked if their was an issue, and we explained the issue and after dicussing it amonst themselves they decided to instead give my opponent the win instead and all 20 points and me 0. (THey eventually went wit 10-10 his victory after a long conversation). It doesn't help at all my opponent never even argued that he deserved anything because even he knew how badly he got beaten. The reserves/deep strike difference barely even mattered because everything would have been in the same positions regardless of how they came on outside of 2-3 inconsequential units.

So instead of me going 96/100 battle points and Best General I get dropped to 86/100 and dropped out of first, while my opponent goes on to get best overall with his extra 10 points and walking away with ridiculous prize support etc. (So Goatboy should have also actually been Best Overall most likely, but he got cheated out of it without realizing it)

I've had games/points/tournaments lost before because of poor judge rulings on rules and such before, but I've never had a judge completely null and void a completed game after the game was over and just hand out VPs as they see fit. The fact it changes the first placings in two different categories just makes it so much worse.

Wow, that's crazy. I've never heard of a judge inserting themselves into a situation that had already been resolved without either player asking for it...

I'm stirring the pot for you on FB :P ****ers

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wow, that's crazy. I've never heard of a judge inserting themselves into a situation that had already been resolved without either player asking for it...

Yea the bat **** crazy part is that one of the guys on FB is claiming the judges came over during the second turn and made the decision. so.....someone is lying.

Meh - his paint was high so who knows. I also could have won the game itself and went 5-0 as well - but meh. SHould have put all my dice to summon screamers. He got lucky with Farsite too - but hey those are dice and how I got past nick was nutty too.

Originally Posted by The Dude

Wow, that's crazy. I've never heard of a judge inserting themselves into a situation that had already been resolved without either player asking for it...

I have heard like 5 different stories with multiple perspectives. Who really knows what happened or what was communicated at this point. Lots of emotion involved that is for sure.

Seems like reasonable answer here :

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3368...63927411719963

Makes sense and kind of sheds light on the whole situation. Multiple people at fault is what it comes down too.