Quote Originally Posted by Darkwynn View Post
All I am saying is the same thing happened last year. It was also put together at last minute. Just as same this year. Great, people are complaining about it again, same as last year. The same things are happening if people want to actually correct it and not fall in the cycle step up and correct it.
Actually patently not the case last year. Jay was in charge. Everyone was announced. We had trophies and I know that for a fact because I went to the trophy shop on Thursday at 4:30 to get them. The non trophy winners got painted purity seals. The conversation was on making it better not why the hell did we fail.

Quote Originally Posted by Darkwynn View Post
Otherwise the same thing happens. Don't get pissy with me or direct your anger at me.
He gets to be because you're really being dismissive. I think we both understand that no really is to blame, but instead of treating us like opponents maybe you should acknowledge that we're right, the announcements were screwed up, and maybe at least thank him and some of the others who made it happen at least.

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Also, at this point some volunteers are organizers and some organizers are voulnteers. No one has an idea on where the line is drawn or not. No one is blaming any one yet but you think you have it in your head.

If people are going to step up and run it they need to be reliable and not flake out last minute or a month before hand.
No one flaked out. No one took the task to begin with. I think we generally assumed someone was handling it. 2012 was better organized in my opinion.