@ Cowboy, it's half up, half on delivery, and $10 back when you return the majority of the bottles back! And wheaty hefes are simple to learn, hard to master, I'd love to test my skills on that! I'll see if there's any flavor profiles in another beer and get back to you on specifics. If you have any, say, Fireman 4 with a more dark wheat front and a bit more punch from the hops, I'd greatly appreciate it.