Thread: 30k in the 40k narrative

Originally Posted by Bal4eva

Over the next few months the Dow system will start to drift back into the warp. This will twist time and warp reality. One way to illustrate this is I am going to start allowing the use of 30k armies built using the age of darkness force org. for regular games and the normal ZM combatant list for the ZM games. And no Primarchs allowed in the ZM games.

This might have just gone too far... If you don't play some form of Legiones Astartes, Grey Knights not included, you get massively F****D. When I play, I want to have fun, not doing something like this. I am sorry to say but this would not be fun in my eyes. The idea that players will now be allowed to play Primarchs or legion characters in normal games vs a 40k list is just wrong... If you wanted to do a 30k game you should have started it like that, not do it mid-year. Just my opinion, but this is a bad idea for if you don't play a legion army it will make the game less fun for anyone not playing a 30k legion list. I felt it necessary to voice this issue because you have new players coming in all the time, and how is it fair to new players that have nothing to try to compete with stuff like this. Things like this is why people stop coming to stores and playing locally. I understand that 30k is becoming more popular, but this is not a way to have people play that system... Like I said before if you wanted to do 30k you should have started it as 30k, not 40k... I am sorry if this comment upsets anyone, but I don't care. This my opinion, and I know that some people will not voice their own opinions because they believe they will upset others.

spit take

Originally Posted by rayilytle

This might have just gone too far... If you don't play some form of Legiones Astartes, Grey Knights not included, you get massively F****D. When I play, I want to have fun, not doing something like this. I am sorry to say but this would not be fun in my eyes. The idea that players will now be allowed to play Primarchs or legion characters in normal games vs a 40k list is just wrong... If you wanted to do a 30k game you should have started it like that, not do it mid-year. Just my opinion, but this is a bad idea for if you don't play a legion army it will make the game less fun for anyone not playing a 30k legion list. I felt it necessary to voice this issue because you have new players coming in all the time, and how is it fair to new players that have nothing to try to compete with stuff like this. Things like this is why people stop coming to stores and playing locally. I understand that 30k is becoming more popular, but this is not a way to have people play that system... Like I said before if you wanted to do 30k you should have started it as 30k, not 40k... I am sorry if this comment upsets anyone, but I don't care. This my opinion, and I know that some people will not voice their own opinions because they believe they will upset others.

You have not played 30K or 40k recently.

Originally Posted by Caldera02

You have not played 30K or 40k recently.

A lot of people are collecting 30k armies, but until games get played there is going to be a lot of suspicion about it. I'm a purest and think they should be kept separate, but I also want to see more games played until there are enough armies to have their own event.

The best things a 40k SM army has that don't exist in 30k...
Grav
Super friend death stars
ATSKNF
Formations
Cheap units

And the 30K cultist come out of the woodwork.......

Originally Posted by Minus67

2 GT's and counting....

One GT that is throwing everything but the kitchen sink into the mix and another that has changed formats almost every year. It's not like 30K is breaking into the mainstream.

I want to play both. But, I don't want to mix them.

Originally Posted by Minus67

Separate but equal john? Your on the wrong side of history here :P

Look the race card is played enough in recent politics. I don't need that crap in my 40K.