Quote Originally Posted by Caldera02 View Post
When everyone stops giving hollow reasons to be against 30k, maybe I will care.
Why don't YOU give a solid argument for including 30K besides just dismissing other people's legitimate concerns? We have just had one new player and one player new to the area speak out against including 30K and y'all have completely disregarded them and their concerns without addressing the issue at all.

Nu-uh is not an argument.