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    No john, bad.

    That ones deader than the price point on your OOP wraithlord
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    Any rules that stop you from putting more models on the table and maybe finish a game, Im all for that!

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    My problem with the faq in general is that it obviously is considering how to nerf/limit certain builds or tactics but not others. However, instead of just outright saying so, these generalized changes or interpretations are given. I assume this is in the spirit of appearing to be objective, but it isn't really. My opinion is if an event wants to specifically not allow certain things, they should just require early list submission and deny things they don't want, so it gets returned with a suggestion of what would meet approval. At least then there is honesty to the subjectivity. And people would say it requires too much work, but really it probably would be only about a minute or two for each list I would guess.

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    List submission is a terrible time sink. Yes, it may be only two minutes per list, but players end up submitting multiple lists, especially if you tell them you don't like something. Even if it is two minutes, that's almost 7 hours of work for 200 person tournament. It just isn't worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealGenius View Post
    List submission is a terrible time sink. Yes, it may be only two minutes per list, but players end up submitting multiple lists, especially if you tell them you don't like something. Even if it is two minutes, that's almost 7 hours of work for 200 person tournament. It just isn't worth it.
    I see the point, but at 200 participants paying $55 each, assuming a time valuation of 50 per hour, $350 out of 11000 is a small part of operational budget. Plus there are options to have evaluations done anonymously via the group of participants and setting a threshhold.

    My main point was, the faq seems geared to prohibit only specific perceived abuses which is inherently subjective and arbitrary. I just take personal issue with the veneer of objectivity being used. I have no problem with subjective limitations if it reflects the will of the participating majority, but it should be explicit: we don't want XYZ to be able to do PQR etc. But LMN are ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morella888 View Post
    I see the point, but at 200 participants paying $55 each, assuming a time valuation of 50 per hour, $350 out of 11000 is a small part of operational budget.
    It isn't a money question, but a time question.
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    I despise LMN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldera02 View Post
    I despise LMN!
    Whatcha for against Lower Motor Neurons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldera02 View Post
    I despise LMN!
    Personally I have a problem with HIJ, but I didn't mention them cause I didn't want to seem biased.

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