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    Senior Member morella888's Avatar
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    Found one of the links: http://dicephysics.info/0107.htm

    There is also conflicting evidence on the 'ones' issue. Some people have done a study indicating the opposite is true, determining that centrifugal force (spin) beats gravity. But, what these conflicting issues point out is that the way in which that die is thrown is going to skew the results (with gaming dice, casino dice have most consistently been studied and determined to be fair). So if you throw the cheap round cornered dice with drilled pips in a manner that favors centrifugal motion (by tossing or throwing), apparently 'ones' are more likely (according to one study I found). However, if dice are dropped, minimizing centrifugal force, then the weight (mass*gravity) exerts more influence. The link I included above does indicate that six is more likely than one with the cheap dice, but 2-5 are actually more common than both, which makes me think I was correct in what I guessed about the destabilization on the 1-6 pole. But that study does not indicate the quality of the dice roll.

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    Yes but the problem with dropping round dice is that they scatter to the four corners of the earth

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    Depends how far I guess. I usually drop them so there is only a small distance to the table and they don't scatter too far; way less then when I roll them. But I'm short, that might make a difference - on the tables at DL if I am standing and holding my arms so that the forearms are parallel to the table, my hands are less than a few inches above the table I think.

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    And I guess it would be good to clarify how I am differentiating the use of the word spin. By air spin I meant turning before touching the table, table spin I meant when the die spins like a top, then rolling means the die bounces on the table.

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    If it's beveled, you need to trash that crap. you don't have to have casino dice, but square dice are honestly better. Only person I know who can rely on beveled dice is Nick Rose, and he can't even place higher than you Brian. Chris throws his dice in the air, but he also rolls so terrible that he makes square dice look bad.

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    well i bought a bunch of square dice and have been using them

    i also have beveled large and beveled small
    and the beveled blood angels

    the only ones that roll poorly are the blood angels

    however from what i read on erins links and some googling of my own it is almost impossible to affect the dice by flattening a side or drilling them. you can affect them but the percentages would not be noticeable in our games.

    not sure what i will do at this time

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    Dice odds will never work the way you want it too when you want it too. With that in mind make a list and form a play style that minimizes dice luck and bad rolls into your overall game plan. I have slowly gone that route with my builds, the effect is rather impressive at least to my POV. You can have games that are effected and affected less by rolls of the dice. Once that goal is reached even bad dice mojo won't hurt you.
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    You should let me try them for my Blood Angel army. I already roll a bunch of ones, so how much worse could it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealGenius View Post
    You should let me try them for my Blood Angel army. I already roll a bunch of ones, so how much worse could it be?
    Ok if you want to

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