Thread: This will be relevant: condemner boltguns.

or D: not matter because condemnor rounds make khorne laugh while he's collecting ladyskulls?

We talked about this a bit a couple of sundays ago.

Psi-Shock: Any unit with the Pskyer, Brotherhood of Psykers or Psychic Pilot special rules that is hit by a weapon with this special rule suffers the Perils of the Warp in addition to any other damage.

Since none of those three rules transfer from IC to unit, the perils would occur on a model after a shot that was allocated to a psyker, either through it being closest, a look out sir, or a precision shot that wasn't look-out-sir'ed away, etc. Since it's all one unit, you'd suffer one perils on whomever was determined to be hit (in the case of people who aren't BoP). That's how I'd do it, and Chris can obviously disagree with me, but the RAW alternative to that is that a librarian in a unit of tactical marines can never be hurt by it until all the tactical marines are dead, because tactical marines do not have any of those rules.

That's a fair point, though if you just care about LoC's, the point is moot, and they'll eat a perils when you hit. Nids, I think the only guys this ruling has bearing on are brood lords and tyrants with a tyrant guard unit. Can Alpha's get psychic powers?

I forgot about the allocation difference. based on that, you'd never get to trigger the perils even with precision, because the unit is still a tactical squad, not a tactical squad with a librarian, in the above example.

B: If they are the closest model or the precision hit sticks. The psyker has to actually be hit by the bullet, not just happen to be in a unit hit by the weapon.

Originally Posted by Caldera02

B: If they are the closest model or the precision hit sticks. The psyker has to actually be hit by the bullet, not just happen to be in a unit hit by the weapon.

This makes little sense though..... Here's why:

When you shoot at a unit with any given weapon it is the unit that is hit, not the particular model/s. Once you determine the number of hits the unit suffers you roll to wound rolls. Once you have the number of wounds you then create wound pools based off of strength, AP, etc. The wounds from each respective pool is what is then allocated to individual models through LOS restrictions, look out sir, or taking the wound on the next closest model. So since the wound says hit, I think we would place it against the unit, since the unit is what is hit......

Yeah cause otherwise you could snipe the **** out of Libbies and such and that's not cool.