Thread: 2015 Wargamescon *update* 4/20/15

Originally Posted by rand0mnumb3r

"An army may not have a duplicate of any Detachment.
Note: This includes “Decurion Style” Detachments which are comprised of multiple data slates and Formations. They may not take duplicate Formations within the Detachment, although they make take duplicate Data Slate units within the Detachment if permitted to do so."

I hope they give an exception to the "aspect host" part of the Eldar decurion. It is the only way to get asepct warriors into the decurion and you only get 3 squads per formation. It is meant to be able to be taken multiple times...

Are Eldar just going to be limited to a maximum of 3 Aspect Warrior Squads? I was actually looking forward to playing a footdar army with all the different aspects, but now it looks almost impossible to do under their rules. Man they make it really hard to do anything fun...

You can include as many aspects as possible with a 2 detachment limit. So, CAD+eldcurion (including aspect host), or cad plus aspect host. or cad plus allies. i think non-repetition of detachments is good; however, allowing allied as same faction is totally bad, no point to that - the whole point to the little allied detachment is that it comes from a different faction. wtf.

and i take back what i said earlier. i can handle their detachment limit (at least its not called 'sources' anymore), but i did not notice in my once-over that they still will include the adulterated invisibility and rerollable saves grossness, and the additional bonuses for playing against lords of war. those are all still really pointless and biased limitations.

what about just cad plus formation. anway bikes are just bikes unless you go full scatlasertard

Originally Posted by rand0mnumb3r

You could I suppose.

Though then you would be playing with a needless handicap on an already non-competitive list. (no 6" run which is awesome for footdar, and only 3 of your squads get the +1WS/BS)

It is just annoying to try to build a list that is already non-competitive just to realize halfway through I have to handicap myself on top of it all to make it fit into some ITC format. 60 scatterlaserbikes are legit and expected, but I can't have 4 melee aspect warrior squads with +1 WS... It is just depressing lol

I think I may write a poll on the jetbike issue, but I think the main problem it seems is the idea of having 10 bikes per unit & max units. Running min squads even if they are all SL or SCan shouldn't be too big of an issue for people I would hope. Plus the threat risk of a 3 up squad is so much lower they might even be around for late game objective grabs.

I too find it annoying not to be able to run the all-aspects army (aka Biel-Tan style in my mind), but at the same time, if only concentrating on melee aspects, which are you looking at besides Scorp/Banshees/maybe Spears? Or is it just to run multiples of the same aspect?

Also, don't know since I don't have the codex in hand yet and haven't kept up with all the leaks - is it confirmed that 'auxiliary' contingents are each classed as formations?

Originally Posted by rand0mnumb3r

"An army may not have a duplicate of any Detachment.
Note: This includes “Decurion Style” Detachments which are comprised of multiple data slates and Formations. They may not take duplicate Formations within the Detachment, although they make take duplicate Data Slate units within the Detachment if permitted to do so."

I hope they give an exception to the "aspect host" part of the Eldar decurion. It is the only way to get asepct warriors into the decurion and you only get 3 squads per formation. It is meant to be able to be taken multiple times...

Are Eldar just going to be limited to a maximum of 3 Aspect Warrior Squads? I was actually looking forward to playing a footdar army with all the different aspects, but now it looks almost impossible to do under their rules. Man they make it really hard to do anything fun...

You need more than 3 squads of aspect warriors with BS/WS 5/6 models and re-roll morale/pinning/fear with an auto 6" run to have fun? You can still fit all the aspects into a CAD. Dire avengers are still troops. There are still 3 elite slots for Banshees/Scorpions/Fire Dragons, 3 FA slots for the Warp Spiders, Swooping Hawks, and Shining Spears, as well as 3 heavy slots for dark reapers. Lack of ability to take aspect warriors shouldn't be a complaint.

im sayin

Someone will figure it out but I really want to start seeing Footdar armies again. We shall see, we shall see.