Quote Originally Posted by Geist View Post
625 for unit. 375 for lord. 200 for bsb. 1200. It might meet the definition of a death star but it does not even come close to what actual death stars do. Only soft targets are really in danger. Ask Brandon how it went for me when he charged his big ass block of knights into it. I did something like 12 wounds, not a single one stuck. Anyone with actual armour saves just laughs off my shooting. I have to depend on magic to make my shooting actually thin out real saves.
I know how to beat your list Chris, I've played you 4 times and not lost yet. Regardless of armor saves you still are almost NEVER going to charge that unit where it can stand & shoot unless you have been able to whittle it down with your own shooting/magic, or unless want to lose your rear. Further, it preserves points because since you don't want to charge that, and your 315 point iron demon is nigh-unkillable, your list does exactly what a deathstar list does ... preserves points. Deathstars aren't just about killing things, it's about making it near impossible to get points off your list without massive risk.