I don't want to use it
I am not just talking about the dogfight phase. Apparently it makes it to where flyers don't have skyfire
Literally night scythes were snap shooting flying daemon princes
Now I believe that was a bamboozlement as I believe the actual rule is -1 bs
However I also don't want to buy a damn book either
What have you guys heard and think?
Attack and Bomber flyers do not have Skyfire in DFTS. Fighters are -1BS when shooting at ground targets.
I know we are against having to learn new rules, so i would say we do not use any part of it. Its basically a rule book part two which will inevitably lead to players who have the book and those who don't having two different versions of the rules.
yeah until its integrated into 8th, seems like more trouble than its worth
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Agreed.
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I wasn't going to buy it but I was willing to learn the rules; clunky as they are... Maybe 8th edition in the Fall?
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The dogfight phase is clunky, but I think the rest of it is fine. The bulk of the book is made up of data sheets, and rules/missions centered around an air campaign. The actual rules changes that apply to general games are only a couple of pages, and I'm sure they will get included in the next edition. There is a benefit in that flyers can try to make an extra 90 degree turn in the middle of their movement. It sucks that attack flyers can't shoot at other flyers, but here I go trying to apply real world to 40k, but I don't think you'll find too many A-10's winning dogfights against Su-27's, nor would the Su-27 be as effective against ground targets as an A-10.
Skip the dogfight phase and leave out Air Superiority if it gets your panties in that much of a bunch, but the rest of it isn't game breaking. If you have a flyer like a Vendetta or a FW flyer that doesn't have a classification/agility/pursuit, then play them as they were prior to DFTS. I bet FW will put out errata for their stuff sooner or later.
Last edited by DandyPandy; 06-06-2016 at 02:53 PM.
Originally Posted by DandyPandy
I don't care about the any of the rules, what i care more about is that i have a space marine book. That books tells me the rules (to an extent) to my Storm Raven and my Storm Talon. Now apparently those rules are wrong and i cant field them without buying another book?
For DL Tournaments we will not be using these rules.
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Hey John, what is the scope of the rules not being used? All? Is the new SM flier not allowed? New formations not allowed? Would you treat the new flier(s) and formations the same as any other supplement...as long as the player has brought a hard/soft copy and flier/formation meets ITC regulations?
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