Badab theme forces

So "theme" forces was an idea we had for the Badab book to fill up some of the pages that were removed in the re-edit. The theme or battle formations would be like Apocalypse formations/datasheets, except that they are designed to be used in a standard game. The premise is that if you fulfill a certain core force organization, you gain special benefits.

For example, something like this for Novamarines:

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Terminator Strike Force
Theme requirements:

Captain Blaylock
Chief Librarian Durja and accompanying squad of Terminators
1+ squad(s) Terminators
1+ squad(s) Assault Terminators
0-1 Heavy

A force led by both Captain Blaylock and Chief Librarian Durja
(accompanied by his Librarium squad of Terminators) containing
two or more squads of Terminators as specified as above gains
the following benefits:

All Terminators arriving via Deep Strike scatter 1D6.

A squad containing either Blaylock or Durja (or either character
alone) does not scatter when it arrives via Deep Strike.

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Any ideas for other armies?

Novamarines -- Terminator Strike Force
Star Phantoms
Executioners
Fire Hawks
Space Sharks
Red Scorpions
Lamenters
Marines Errant
Exorcists
Mantis Warriors
Astral Claws
Minotaurs
Sons of Medusa
Salamanders
Fire Angels
Raptors
Howling Griffins

I like the not scatter but not the assaulting on deep strike.

That's fine with me; now we just need to come up with at least one formation for each army. :)

you wanna put a list of all the armies at the top of the page so we can mark off the ones we have come up with ones for?

I think we should seriously consider making landraiders a troop choice for space sharks if you take all 6 of them ;)

What's their FW special guy's powers? I think it should be complementary to that, and/or to the Fly Lord characters. Novamarines Captain makes Terminators scoring (but not Troops), so this kinda piggybacks off of that.

But I like 6 Land raiders. :)

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Knights of the Flame
Theme requirements:

Knight Captian Courbray
Librarian Aachen
2+ jump pack-equipped Assault or Vanguard squads
2+ Tactical Squads with Razorback or Rhino

A force led by both Knight Captain Courbray and Librarian Aachen
with two or more jump pack-equipped Assault or Vanguard
squads and 2 or more squads of mechanized Tactical Marines
gains the following benefits:

Each Assault, Vanguard and Tactical squad in the army man take
an additional flame weapon as specified below:

Heavy Flamer +15 points
Flamer +10 points

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Traditionally, Red Scorpions abhorred the use of snipers, infiltrators, and other such sneaky shenanigans. They are a 'in your face' and 'up the center' legion, preferring to stand proud in the face of enemy fire (the almost universal Feel No Pain may have something to do with that).
If your Red Scorpions army contains NO sniper rifles, and will not be outflanking or infiltrating, AND it has 3+ tactical squads:
Once per game, and all in the same turn, all Rhino-chassied vehicles may move an extra 6" in the movement phase.

"Have pride in your colours, brothers! Do not hide who and what you are: We are the Emperor's fist which smashes the heretic in the FACE, and rips him a new asshole!"
--Lord High Commander Carab Culln

How about no Scouts, 3+ Tacs and Rhinos are Fast? A little more limiting than all Rhino chassis.

And it should probably have to include one or more of the special characters.

I remember something in the FW books about Howling Griffons using a lot of terminators. Maybe something around that.

Their character is the chappy dread, right? Maybe a dread FOC modifier? Says they are also known for powerful battle psychers.

Exorcists:
Merrin +2 Daemonguard vets.

Merrin grants any Daemonguard vets he joins "Liturgies of Battle" for that assault.

"The Power of the Emperor compels you! The Power of the Emperor compels you! The Power of the Emperor compels you ... To DIE!"
~Chief Librarian Merin

I'm also building a squad of Daemonguard Vets outta Grey Knights and Marine bits. full 10 man squad. mostly just for pictures for the book. I don't think I'm gonna end up with yet another marine army -- then again, Who knows.

Lamenters:
Stormwing Assault Force:

1 Malakim Phoros
1 Reclusiarch (may be Athaloc)
1+ Terminator Assault Squads
0-1 Chaplain
1+ Stormraven Gunship

All Stormravens in the formation gain Extra armour for free. All infantry models in the formation have the Fearless, Furious Charge, and Rage USRs.

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Originally Posted by The Dude

All Stormravens in the formation gain Extra armour for free. All infantry models in the formation have the Fearless, Furious Charge, and Rage USRs.

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You left out Preferred Enemy: All

it should be tactical squads instead of assault terminators

I like the Tacs idea; and maybe 2+ Stormravens.

I think it should exclude Athaloc. Why give them all Rage and a character that gives his squad Rage and then a guy that removes Rage?

Maybe:

1 Malakim Phoros
1 Chaplain (not Athaloc)
2+ Tactical squads
2+ Stormraven Gunship

All Tactical squads gain Fearless, Furious Charge, and Rage USR. All Stormravens count as having Extra Armor while they are transporting a Tactical squad.

Then it is basically a Death Company army that can score and gives a bonus when being transported by Stormraven.

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Originally Posted by AdamHarry

Exorcists:
Merrin +2 Daemonguard vets.

Merrin grants any Daemonguard vets he joins "Liturgies of Battle" for that assault.

"The Power of the Emperor compels you! The Power of the Emperor compels you! The Power of the Emperor compels you ... To DIE!"
~Chief Librarian Merin

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How about:
Merrin
2+ Daemonguard Veterans

Daemonguard Vets can choose to re-roll to hit or to wound on the turn they initiate an assault.

Should we charge points for these formations or try to build in disadvantages besides the FOC requirements?

Lets not worry about points yet. Just try to get them all flushed out and then worry about balancing them against one another. Also I dont want these turning into mini Apoc formations. They should just create some interesting FOC with mini/slight bonuses to reward you for taking a more restrictive list.

Mantis Warriors
Tranquility Ambush Formation
Captain Mantodea
Command Squad
2+ Tactical Squads
0-3 Assault Squads
1+ Tranquility Sniper Squad

The formation gains Stealth USR for the first turn of the game.

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Originally Posted by daKing

it should be tactical squads instead of assault terminators

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Why would an Assault force have Tacticals instead of an Assault option? Assault Marines maybe...
Agreed on excluding Athaloc Jim, I forgot he removed Rage..lol..

Ok assault squads are cool. As long as its a troop. Why the free ex armor?

Keeps them moving.

What about instead of EA, changing the Machine Spirit to the old version-- that also allows a move straight ahead?

Howling Griffons
The Red and Yellow: Stalwart Defense/Unyielding Offense
2 full tac squads (the red)
2 full termi squads (the yellow)
the formation gains fleet USR and +1 cover safe in terrain (cannot be combined with other save modifiers)

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Originally Posted by Bulwark

Howling Griffons
The Red and Yellow: Stalwart Defense/Unyielding Offense
2 full tac squads (the red)
2 full termi squads (the yellow)
the formation gains fleet USR and +1 cover safe in terrain (cannot be combined with other save modifiers)

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should have a character requirement too.

What about Sternguard as Troops instead of the Tacs? Seems more fitting for "Stalwart Defense"? Or maybe "Select one squad of each the Sternguard and Terminators in the formation. These squads are considered Troops."

But, yeah, I agree with Adam, needs a SC, preferably the Fly Lord one. :)

why would termis get fleet? or stealth for that matter?

Special character gets to reroll against ICs. Maybe instead have the units re-roll to wound one player turn?

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Originally Posted by RealGenius

Special character gets to reroll against ICs. Maybe instead have the units re-roll to wound one player turn?

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Or the unit the character joins can re roll to wound while the SC is in the unit ?

Stubborn would be better..

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Originally Posted by AdamHarry

Or the unit the character joins can re roll to wound while the SC is in the unit ?

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or the unit can reroll hits against ICs while the SC is in the unit.