Thread: New Battle Demi-Companies and BC

So...

Angels of Death includes several new formations, but of note are two new ones (okay maybe not "new" but "new to this book and now available to all chapters") with interesting names:

Stormlance Battle Demi-Company and Pinion Battle Demi-Company

The question I have is this: can you combine these with either themselves and/or a regular Battle Demi-Company under a Gladius Strike Force to form a full Battle Company?

Arguments both ways:

1. It doesn't say you can
2. It doesn't say you can't

Now, I'm of the OPINION that you should be able to, because otherwise, why name them XXX Battle Demi-Company? That's a poor argument, however, in terms of rules-lawyering, so I submit it to the group for discussion.

Originally Posted by CrusherJoe

So...

Angels of Death includes several new formations, but of note are two new ones (okay maybe not "new" but "new to this book and now available to all chapters") with interesting names:

Stormlance Battle Demi-Company and Pinion Battle Demi-Company

The question I have is this: can you combine these with either themselves and/or a regular Battle Demi-Company under a Gladius Strike Force to form a full Battle Company?

Arguments both ways:

1. It doesn't say you can
2. It doesn't say you can't

Now, I'm of the OPINION that you should be able to, because otherwise, why name them XXX Battle Demi-Company? That's a poor argument, however, in terms of rules-lawyering, so I submit it to the group for discussion.

Can I use a Riptide Wing as part of a Battle Company?

sarcasm aside the answer is no. Honestly I would love to run one of the kauyon formations in my battle company, but until they explicitly say I can do it it will remain a pipe dream.

I think it has more to do with what formation type it is than what book it comes from.....as long as it's from the same faction.

I've heard other people say that 40k is a permissive ruleset, so unless you are explicitly told you can do it, you can't. The codex says "If a Gladius Strike Force includes two Battle Demi-Companies..." (note the capitalization). Battle Demi-company is listed as a core formation for the Gladius. It doesn't say Pinion Battle Demi-company. Therefore, those can't be used as a core formation under a Gladius Strike Force.

Originally Posted by Minus67

I dont disagree with your point as i dont have books in front of me. but

This statement is made of fairy dust and wishes. GW would never be so clear.

I'm saying other people have said it, and in general terms it can be applied. I know they sometimes suck at writing rules. But yeah, the thing about the Gladius is very specific.