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    Counter to Deathstars Hallelujah

    I finally found the hardest of hard counters to deal with people who bring deathstars.

    from the daemon codex. The Masque. (basically an herald of slaanesh that can't join other units)

    At the beginning of her shooting phase she gets to pick 1 unengaged non-vehicle unit within 12". that unit can only Move,Run, charge,fall back d3" and suffers -5 WS. No roll to hit or save involved in the ability.

    All on a model that can deep strike.

    She is like the culexus assassin of deathstars! for 75 points.

    She also has a -5 ballistic skill ability for shooty deathstars.
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    Nice!
    How would you keep her alive though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjawraithlord View Post
    Nice!
    How would you keep her alive though?
    deep strike all but guarantees 1 turn of crippling the deathstar if they can actually kill her at range. you can also run d6+3"(with fleet) behind a wall after using the ability.(then move out next turn. remember the deathstar can only move 2d3" a turn basically). So just play the Jump-Shoot-Jump game with her.

    More often then not you might only get 1 turn of castrating the deathstar, but that alone can win games when 1500+ points is effectively shut out for a turn.

    You can also just hide her behind a wall all game and create a 18" zone of "you can't come near here" to the deathstar if they didn't take any deep strikers etc.

    Lots of options for just 75 points (technically +45 for the ObSec Nurglings tax which gives you a shrouded infiltrating troop!)

    She can also be used on things like Wraithknights and imperial knights etc so its not like she is ever wasted points. (unless its tau. then she is useless cause intercept and smart missiles. **** tau they are no fun!)
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    A wolf star can just break a single character off to go murder her
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    Quote Originally Posted by daKing View Post
    A wolf star can just break a single character off to go murder her
    Would the broken off character still suffer the penalties? If so they might have a hard time doing it still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by daKing View Post
    A wolf star can just break a single character off to go murder her
    I would assume it works like a Malediction and sticks to everyone in the unit regardless of if they detach.

    Otherwise how would you even decide what Unit the ability is affecting if they split apart?
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    Just did that to a star today. yes its a pain for them - they can plan around it and make sure all their guys are split up - but it will slow them down a turn and if you force them to voltron out early - you can pick off each part quickly - especially in swarms of dogs and without FNP etc. But it works really well - tested Tetrad plus Daemon CAD - went with Tzeentch DP as the Warlord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rand0mnumb3r View Post
    I would assume it works like a Malediction and sticks to everyone in the unit regardless of if they detach.

    Otherwise how would you even decide what Unit the ability is affecting if they split apart?
    Don't assume that. Is it a malediction?
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    I meant that she can only affect one unit a turn so if you broke off a character at deployment then she won't be able to slow down both and you can squish her in combat. If she only gets to slow the unit down for a single turn how is that really game changing?
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    Yeah it's just like if a character breaks off from an invisible deathstar that character ceases to invisible.
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