Battle engine minions rumors from F+F forums

[Revenant]

Both BE's are only available to their respective minion pacts so can only be taken in faction...
The Sacral Vault is supposed to be: PC: 9
SPD: 4
MAT:0
Rat: 5
Def: 9:
Arm: 20
CMD: 10
20 health boxes
Gunfighter, Eyeless Sight
Weapon: Spectral Fury
Range: 12, RoF 1, Pow 13
Rapid Fire: d3
Deathly Dominion ( Bone Shaker on a gun). Costs 1 soul
Abilities: Crypt of Souls: Gain 1 soul for each living model that is destroyed in its command area. If no souls are on it at the beginning of your Control Phase it gains d3 souls. Souls can be spent to boost attack and damage rolls.
Arcane Vortex: Spend a soul to negate a spell targeting the Vault or a model within 3'' of it.
Soul Sacrifice: Warlock can remove a soul to gain 1 fury point...then the image cuts off.
Soul Storm: While this model has 1 or more soul tokens enemy models entering, or ending their activation within 2'' of the Vault take 1 damage.
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MEAT THRESHER (Minion Farrow Battle Engine)
COST - 9
FA - 2
Spd - 6
Str - 12
Mat - 6
Rat - 5
Def - 10
Arm - 19
CMD - 10
HP: 20-something
Inherent model special rules: Bulldoze/Ride-by/Weapon Platform
Chaingun: ROF: 1
Range: 9
POW: 12
Special weapon rules: autofire 2d3
Crusher: P+S: 16 Special weapon rules: Blood reaper (on first melee atk, make an atk on all enemy models in LOS and in melee range)
Grinding Wheel (additional die on atk rolls vs small based models)
Knockdown (models hit are knocked down)
Trash (additional die on dmg rolls vs knocked down models)

[ace423]

So... wait.

On the charge the Meat Thresher gets 5d6 against a small based charge target and then 4d6 against everything else? (assuming it hit of course).

And then an additional d6 if carver is in charge, geez.

[m3g4tr0n]

Those are both pretty sweet.

[muffinman]

So... wait.

On the charge the Meat Thresher gets 5d6 against a small based charge target and then 4d6 against everything else? (assuming it hit of course).

And then an additional d6 if carver is in charge, geez.

where is the 5th dice coming from? pretty sure it's 4 (3 for charge 1 for knockdown on hit)

[Revenant]

Ya, its additional dice to hit not damage on small base. I saw the top of the gator card on facebook it looks like circle and legion can take the Gator engine. Either way they are both awesome in my opinion. I especially love the gator one, bone shaker is my favorite spell/effect.

[GentleBen]

If the meat thresher is real it would be the first battle engine auto-include. I would want it with every Farrow army.

It's a really good BE but it would finally give farrow an easy way to clear infantry.

The Sacral Vault might actually be better, but the gators had much better stuff than pigs already, so I don't think it will have as big an impact on them as a faction.

[muffinman]

I would trade out the Siege Animantarax for either one of these....

[mellchia]

I would trade the Siege Animantarax for cow turd. Because I can actually use cow turd to fertilize, whereas I cannot use the Siege Animantarax.

I'm digging what I'm seeing.

[Frost]

I need Apollo to log on and defend the Seige Animantarax!

[muffinman]

I need Apollo to log on and defend the Seige Animantarax!

Does he like it? I thought he agreed with the general idea that it's absolutely terrible. The best use I ever got out of it was proxying the Mammoth. Even a tier list that made it 7 points and started maxed on tokens didn't make it work