Thread: "Worst" Warmachine and Hordes choices.

For Skorne, I still see people maligning the Ancestral Guardians and Immortals, but as far as the AG goes, it seems like it would be amazing for SR2012. Just run it in, park it on the objective... and that seems like some winsauce to me.

For Cygnar (and most other factions), the artillery is also decried as being terrible. People still don't seem to like the Sentinel (though I have seen Kraye supporters that enjoy using them). People also say the Firefly is overcosted, but that just seems to be a general complaint. I feel like it is worth the points when I get a triple-triangulation from some Stormsmiths that are far enough back to not die on the next turn.

Other Cygnar stuff that is "terrible": the Gun Mage Captain Adept, and there's not a lot of compliments thrown around when Finn is brought up either. Longgunners are also apparently heaped in with Trenchers. For some reason people say Kara Sloan is no good (!) because she's just a poor man's Caine?!


The more I type out, the more this stuff just seems like Internet Hyperbole shaken up in a closed environment and then left to simmer with a bunch of trolls and hot air. I don't think you should have any issue winning games and having fun with any of these models on the huge list you have.

Originally Posted by frothykat

The more I type out, the more this stuff just seems like Internet Hyperbole shaken up in a closed environment and then left to simmer with a bunch of trolls and hot air. I don't think you should have any issue winning games and having fun with any of these models on the huge list you have.

I absolutely agree! However, this stuff does catch people by surprise sometimes, and I think that can be a really good thing.

The Trollkin Skinner just ****ing sucks though.

For Ret Housegard Riflemen are generally considered worthless outside of maybe an Ossyan list. Ossyan makes them awesomely average.

Originally Posted by frothykat

a bunch of trolls and hot air.

Wait a second, Frothy, are you referring to Greggle or me...?

Originally Posted by Greggle

The Trollkin Skinner just ****ing sucks though.

Yes. In my opinion, the Skinner isn't worth it at all; he seems only mediocre against another Hordes army, let alone almost useless against a Warmachine faction. I've realized the main benefits I'll probably ever get from his purchase were the hobby points for the Journeyman League.

I haven't had the time to read the forums, so I'm curious. What are the arguments against (or at least not for) pDoomshaper? I've only played him once, but I enjoyed him. His feat appears awesome (even though I forgot to use it), and the extra point of Fury and the +1 'beast point seemed pretty good. But again, I chose him mainly for the model and backstory ...

I haven't played or payed any attention to my Cygnar in years. Back then the Trenchers were awesome speedbumps. What's replaced them in popularity?

And I swear, someday I'm going to make Zerkova work.

The long gunners really need the full unit and the UA to be worth their points I think, although I haven't used them like that. Small units are terrible.

Sloan is good at killing but not all that survivable at a times is her downfall. But man she really makes defenders shine!

Let's see the sentinel is really... I mean I know where it is useful and amazing with Kaye but you have to use it in a specific manner and it requires you to be far closer to the enemy than I feel you should be with Kraye so I dont often use it anymore unless I have the points.

Oh and since you mentioned trenchers you automatically have to put the grenadier on that list

Also you forgot the over costed and silly triumph