Ok, that was my mistake, a Warhammer Fantasy Battle, no special characters means no named characters from the Army Books. Most battles are only 2,500 points, I keep playing the same armies I played in the previous weeks, because people only bring lists they plan to use in tournaments, no imagination. I tried a challenge a few months ago with no one using magic users or magic items, so my opponents brought in large monsters that only magic weapons could hurt, my mistake again. Now, I am going for a large battle with magic, monsters and wizards, just for something different.