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    attn: TOs Who Think They Are Game Designers

    Based on the leaked info, the necron decurion, basically a detachment made up of other formations, appears to have been specifically designed to break your scared brains. Your stopgap nonsolutions are about to die tired and confused.

    Make people bring battleforged armies. You don't need more words. Stop worrying about number of "sources" or detachments. You just confuse yourself. Especially when you randomly give tyranids exceptions just because... actually I have no idea why you were ever doing that.

    Stop trying to redesign the game by rewriting invisibility or rerollable saves. Not necessary.

    Stop trying to overmanage lords of war and superheavies. And stop tryin to discourage them by including Escalation widgets. They are points sinks that can only control a small portion of the table, but are fun and take skill to use. All take-all-comers (TAC) armies should be able to deal with them if you can ALSO expect TAC armies to handle a 5-knight army. Just temporarily ban the revenant reaver and warhound (or don't, whatever). Based on the TranCtan and Vault nerfs theyll get their turn eventually too.

    Design a better hobbyist prize category with prize support/trophies/bragging rights rivaling Top Asshat prize. and/or keep doing the A and B tier split brackets on day 2/games 4-6.

    Someone please point out any issues that would still arise and I will consider them.
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    So.. don't try to change the game.. But than only change the game in ways you say so.

    Lets see how you want to change the game

    1. Battleforged only
    2. Ban reaver
    3. Ban Warhound
    4. Ban Revenant
    5. Somehow magically make a hobbyist prize category with equivalent prizes (we already do, called best painted) People have been trying to do that unsuccessfully for 10 years now. What would you suggest we do, specifically?


    While i liked Tyson's missions and look forward to Feb and March i didn't see anything that was the magic bullet or that was any less rule rewritey than what we had tried. He just went a different way with it. I still had to play 5 hive tyrants .

    But i will say we have totally backed off the source thing and the comp thing and are pretty in line with your thinking-ish
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    i think theres a vast difference btw battleforged plus 3 rare-unit bans and the nonsense happening at Vegas or Railhead for a local example.

    the 3 bans i could go either way about. i just think banning those 3 in particular is easier than these weird other ways people handle the complete insanity these 3 units represent. after 7th ed changes to D I dont care one way or the other.

    unbound is dumb. its a fact.
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    AND I'M TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY MY SILLY MULTICAD STOMPA DREADMOB AT TOURNAMENTS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullymike View Post
    i think theres a vast difference btw battleforged plus 3 rare-unit bans and the nonsense happening at Vegas or Railhead for a local example.

    the 3 bans i could go either way about. i just think banning those 3 in particular is easier than these weird other ways people handle the complete insanity these 3 units represent. after 7th ed changes to D I dont care one way or the other.

    unbound is dumb. its a fact.

    Unbound is dumb I agree. (8 flying hive tyrants is all that needs to be said.)

    Ban unbound and be done with it. If any of the rumors are true then the TrannyCtan got its well deserved nerf and now the LoW slot is "relatively" balanced. The remaining LoW are much like "normal" 40k in that some are meh and some are really good, but none of them really break the game anymore with the Tranny and D nerf.

    I don't understand the source limitation nonsense tournaments use. Eldar, Tau, and Super Death Stars only need 1 or 2 sources to be hyper competitive, and it is stupid to limit everyone else. All the recent codex releases are practically built around formations to be balanced.

    Looking at railheads list building rules made my eyes bleed.

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    and im speaking less to dragons lair TOs than to the larger centex area. lost clarity by being irritated.
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    Not touching this with a ten inch pole.
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    Your "booty > money > toy soldiers" logic is indeed irrefutable.
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    Hehe

    I think we all have dropped the mutlicad, formations,etc thing. Some D's need to get put in pants - but for the most part who cares.

    Don't like the invis ban either - don't like the only 2 sources as well - but I think LVO had to come up with rules to sit on for a full year for their ITC thing. I get the feeling it will be loosened up like a bad night with Taco bell.

    And dangit I need to build my stompa too.

    Unbound = Bad
    Some D's = Bad cuz they are too much to handle! HOoha!
    That's about it right?

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    ok so im not crazy
    "The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."

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    Mike you can play whatever you want at my tournaments.

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