FW IA13 & Vraks (2nd Ed) FAQ - Errata
IA13 and Vraks (2nd) updates from Forgeworld, after I sent them a 3-page list with problems and omissions (still no ruling on broken CSM rules like Infernal Relic). The long and short of it is that R&H players get screwed in a number of unique ways by the list's weird upgrade and design choices because it helps to "forge the narrative." (Not that they could have just been done normally from the start, right? Heh.). Here is their email and my reply:
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Our rules team have come back to us with a work in progress errata document that will answer some of your questions. Some of your other questions, such as those dealing with the way formations work now in some of the more recent 7th edition Codexes, will require some further thought.
Renegades & Heretics Answers
Using the Renegades and Heretics army
The Renegades & Heretics and Renegades of Vraks lists are intended to allow gamers to construct unique themed armies within the Battle forged framework presented in 7th Edition Warhammer 40,000. In many cases these ramshackle and ill-trained armies will not be ideally suited to a given battlefield and may find themselves at a disadvantage when matched against armies selected from codexes that represent true military forces we hope gamers will embrace this challenge as part of the fun of playing such an idiosyncratic army and weave this difficulty into the narrative of their games.
Clarifications for using the Renegades and Heretics army with multiple Detachments
In an army that features multiple detachments selected using the Renegades and Heretics or Renegades of Vraks army lists, only one Demagogue may select a Devotion and this Demagogue MUST be the armys Warlord.
An army may not include more than one character whose rules state he must be the armys Warlord, unless his specific rules state otherwise. Note that a player may choose not to take a Devotion on any Demagogue in his army, thus allowing their inclusion alongside special characters such as Abbadon.
No army may be affected by more than one Devotion.
A Devotion confers the noted benefits on any units of the correct title and Faction across the whole army. For example, if an army includes a Combined Arms detachment and an Allied Detachment, both of which are chosen from the Renegades & Heretics army list, and its Warlord has taken the Bloody-handed Tyrant Devotion, then Renegade Infantry Platoons (for example) MUST purchase the Militia training upgrade and MAY take the flak armour upgrade.
General questions
In many units the cost of additional models is not based on the apparent cost of the basic unit. This is intentional and not a typo.
Renegade squads must choose between sigil/vox nets and special weapons. This is not a typo.
When using the Purge Detachment it must be composed entirely of models from a single Faction.
The Renegade Marauders entry was unfortunately omitted fro Vraks by accident use the same profile from IA 13!
The Krieg Siege list DOES NOT have any air support. This is not a typo.
Renegade command squads may only have 1 special and heavy weapon per unit. This is not a typo.
When returning units to play using the Master of the Horde devotion the units are returned to Ongoing Reserves, such units retain the Objective Secured special rule if they originaly possessed it.
The power drill uses the same statistics as a Lascutter.
My reply:
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"Dear Forgeworld,
Thank you for the prompt reply. I am disappointed with the downsides of most of these clarifications, but at least they've been addressed. I look forward to the full FAQ. I will share these clarifications with other R&H players.
The changes you sent me bring up one important new issue for your rules team: as I suspected, your team clarified that units returned via Master of the Horde return via ONGOING Reserves. However, in the case of the Vraks Unending Host detachment, this runs into an obscure technicality: the "Over the Corpses of the Slain" rule in the detachment states that "Renegade Infantry who re-enter play after being destroyed gain Outflank and roll 2d6 picking the highest for Run moves after moving onto the board from Reserves." Unfortunately, the Outflank special rule in the main rulebook explicitly states that Outflank does not work for units coming in from Ongoing Reserves! Since the intent here seems clear (why would the detachment add Outflank to returning units if these units could never use the rule?), it may be helpful to clarify that the Over the Corpses of the Slain rule overrides, and is an exception to, the normal application of the Outflank rule."
