House Rules vs ITC vs PLay It As Written (Mandatory Drama Thread)

[noodlers]

play as RAW

[Bullymike]

to be more clear yes i vote raw. theres so much tough crap out there. d and stomp balances out death stars. and no ye olde escalation bonuses!!

[rand0mnumb3r]

I agree with Chris. I'm not in love with all of the ITC FAQ, but I think we should implement their changes to ranged D and invisibility.

This 100%. I don't care much about any of the other ITC stuff.( Although having a centralized FAQ everyone uses is REALLY nice even I don't agree with it all. the amount of arguments that are saved because of this has greatly increased my enjoyment of the game)

I'm really tired of having to play invisible deathstars(mainly wolfstars). This unit is by far the least fun thing to play against RAW regardless of if you are prepared or not. If you have a brass scorpion or a bunch of knights congrats you have the one thing that can kill it and you can play the game, but for the rest of us we have run around for 5 turns with our thumbs up our butts not playing the game in any meaningful way.

D weapons being the greatest RNG slot machine ever created in 40k is also really dumb. I'm fine with having them be the best end all weapon for killing tough units, but that '6' result is completely out of proportion for how cheap D weapons are now. It is a terrible mechanic for both sides funwise and gameplay wise. If I roll a 6 on my opponents 400+ model I literally feel guilty and bad for my opponent, and if he rolls a 6 on my 400+ model I just feel depressed and cheated.

[rand0mnumb3r]

i am not sure that either of the things you describe are bad enough to warrant rule changes.

a lot of things can happen on one shot. it takes a 6 to have what you describe occur anyway, as opposed to something that happens a majority of the time.

i did not see the stomp ruling, just the ranged d. are we just talking about ranged d or stomps too?

if a knight runs into the wolfstar it does not get any saves. wraithknights can be humbled by graviton weapons.

But that is a terrible way to balance a game. Its literally rock-paper-Scissors the netlist edition.

If you face wraithknights you HAVE to have Grav/D weapons to kill it.

If you face an invisible wolfstar you HAVE to have stomp to kill anything


As for D, if you brought a 900+ model and you opponent rolled a 6 on his 33 point model just shake his hand immediately because the game is over and he got yahtzee with 1 dice. "Plan roll 6s" is a terrible gameplay system.

[CRP]

I'm really tired of having to play invisible deathstars(mainly wolfstars). This unit is by far the least fun thing to play against RAW regardless of if you are prepared or not. If you have a brass scorpion or a bunch of knights congrats you have the one thing that can kill it and you can play the game, but for the rest of us we have run around for 5 turns with our thumbs up our butts not playing the game in any meaningful way.

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That's funny because you have the best record against Wolfstar out of anyone in town. So, coming from you it sounds a little whiney.

[noodlers]

But that is a terrible way to balance a game. Its literally rock-paper-Scissors the netlist edition.

If you face wraithknights you HAVE to have Grav/D weapons to kill it.

If you face an invisible wolfstar you HAVE to have stomp to kill anything


As for D, if you brought a 900+ model and you opponent rolled a 6 on his 33 point model just shake his hand immediately because the game is over and he got yahtzee with 1 dice. "Plan roll 6s" is a terrible gameplay system.

Now is that actually a thing, a super heavy low can be sixed?

[rand0mnumb3r]

That's funny because you have the best record against Wolfstar out of anyone in town. So, coming from you it sounds a little whiney.

I know how to win against it for sure. Run around for 5 turns with my thumb up your butt not playing the game in any meaningful way. THAT is how you beat it.

[rand0mnumb3r]

Now is that actually a thing, a super heavy low can be sixed?

Yes. a 33 point wraithgaurd can 6 your knight. That is what we are complaining about.

[CRP]

I know how to win against it for sure. Run around for 5 turns with my thumb up your butt not playing the game in any meaningful way. THAT is how you beat it.

Hey, you ain't running around with your thumb up my butt!

[noodlers]

I know how to win against it for sure. Run around for 5 turns with my thumb up your butt not playing the game in any meaningful way. THAT is how you beat it.

unfortunately he is right