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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    Wow! There seems to be a lot of hate for Forgeworld rules in here. I would love both to face and have a Land Raider Achilles. I also have a couple of points regarding its durability:

    1) It's 300 points. That's almost a superheavy in price, so some survivability is deserved.
    2) There's already an AV14 vehicle that's immune to melta and lance. People still manage to kill it. It's even immune to Vanquishers, which this is not. Also, I think it would finally make people start to take an AT weapon that isn't a meltagun or missile launcher again *gasp*.
    3) It will be frighteningly hard to kill for Eldar. I suppose that is a design flaw and will muse on it further.
    4) I would love to see them on the table. Cool looking, effective Space Marine tank (yes, tank. A transport capacity of six is a joke).
    5) Note the lack of assault ramps and a forward debarkation point.
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    definitely going to use that seismic hammer as a force weapon when I order my Librarian dread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldera02 View Post
    Too Heavy, would faceplant into the surface of the planet never to return!
    Na man, it goes face first into the ground and then you just throw it into reverse to pop out of the crater. Land built his vehicles ford tough

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    I agree with Billy. The Achilles is retarded. At least it's 'FW by permission' rules, in which case I can also field a Heirodule or something in the same game.

    Paul, I appreciate your support of all things on wheels, but:
    1) I would gladly pay 300pts for a tough as balls unit. Oh wait, Swarmlord +3guards = 280+180=460pts. It still dies to shooting, and can't shoot back.
    2) So now there's two vehicles that will operate with impunity against my army. Yay.
    3) Nids. This tank is a Nid killer. The Thunderfire cannon destroys my army, and this is one that drives around, runs away from my MC's, and laughs at my Zoanthropes. If it only had those flamers on the side sponsons, it would be PERFECT.
    4) I too would enjoy seeing one on the tabletop. Once.
    5) Noted. It doesn't really take the sting away, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    1) It's 300 points. That's almost a superheavy in price, so some survivability is deserved.
    2) There's already an AV14 vehicle that's immune to melta and lance. People still manage to kill it. It's even immune to Vanquishers, which this is not. Also, I think it would finally make people start to take an AT weapon that isn't a meltagun or missile launcher again *gasp*.
    3) It will be frighteningly hard to kill for Eldar. I suppose that is a design flaw and will muse on it further.
    4) I would love to see them on the table. Cool looking, effective Space Marine tank (yes, tank. A transport capacity of six is a joke).
    5) Note the lack of assault ramps and a forward debarkation point.
    All ranting aside, the model does looks frikkin awesome, and I really would like to see one on the table. It's just that cool.

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    If only the Achilles had some secret weakness... some unknown vulnerability. An 'Achilles Heel,' if you will. Like rear armor 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferro View Post
    If only the Achilles had some secret weakness... some unknown vulnerability. An 'Achilles Heel,' if you will. Like rear armor 5.
    Kidding aside, thats exactly the problem - all of its awesomeness isn't being mitigated by an interesting tactical weakness.

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    "...and fittingly rare outside the noble Imperial Fists..."

    I'm getting one because I'm allowed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist View Post
    "...and fittingly rare outside the noble Imperial Fists..."

    I'm getting one because I'm allowed to.
    Must add more melta guns to army list in order to beat Fists
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