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    There's a rumor that once they hit 1500 backers, they'll add clan Kitsune.
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    Yeah, I was looking at the SDE ks just to compare, and it seems like they planned stretch goals and such based on the funding they received then, but for whatever reason this one is just not taking off the same way. Which then leads to the issue of people not wanting to back as the options stay limited, so the goals continue to not be met. I imagine they need to reset the stretch goal line-up and increments right now to unlock the other stuff and get some momentum going again.

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    I think things may pick up once the gameplay video is out next week.

    Also, one of the founders gave the okay for beta testers to spill rules and such in the comments, as long as they don't post pictures. They will also release beta rules to everyone next week and are not opposed to tweaking numbers here and there based on feedback.
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    I think they need to reduce the stretch goal increments form 25k to 10k, particularly to get the other 2 clans unlocked.

    I just remember watching the malifaux rpg ks stall out, specifically because the stretch goals were too far apart in terms of dollar amounts, so then people stopped backing, then started dropping, and it exacerbated the problem. When they finally got around to adjusting things, it was a bit too late as the community had built up a distaste for how the project had been run.

    Granted, you can make the argument that people shouldn't have the sense of entitlement to getting more than what was there when the ks started, but the stretch goal precedent has been set, in part due to the way the RK campaign was run, so expectations are based on that now. So people expect to be getting a super awesome deal as opposed to being happy with a moderate one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morella888 View Post
    I think they need to reduce the stretch goal increments form 25k to 10k, particularly to get the other 2 clans unlocked.

    I just remember watching the malifaux rpg ks stall out, specifically because the stretch goals were too far apart in terms of dollar amounts, so then people stopped backing, then started dropping, and it exacerbated the problem. When they finally got around to adjusting things, it was a bit too late as the community had built up a distaste for how the project had been run.

    Granted, you can make the argument that people shouldn't have the sense of entitlement to getting more than what was there when the ks started, but the stretch goal precedent has been set, in part due to the way the RK campaign was run, so expectations are based on that now. So people expect to be getting a super awesome deal as opposed to being happy with a moderate one.
    It probably stems from the huge success that the Super Dungeon Explore kickstarter was, that Soda Pop thought they would get similar numbers. Sadly it didn't turn out that way! However as we're seeing, they are super good at communication with customers, so I think with these changes in the stretch goals, they've adjusted to a lower forecast based on demand, and will run out the models they have made and ready at a reasonable time and get about 500-600k out of the project.

    Also, the Relic Knights kickstarter was run by CMoN, which has it's own...way.... of doing things.

    Speaking of SDE, looks like my set of Forgotten King will be here by the 10th of April! Huzzah!
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    Speaking of SDE - I got the update on fulfillment, but don't recall seeing anything about Wave 1 and Wave 2 before. Tried looking through some of the updates, but couldn't see anything in the titles on it. Do you know what's the what on that?

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    Yeah, due to the delay they just barely finished production before Chinese New Year. However, the time it would take to sort out various pledges for add-ons to the core game pledge would take way too long so they shipped out the stuff everyone is getting (core box, unlocked freebies) as wave 1. Wave 2 however is everything else being sorted and shipped in mid April.
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    Thanks. I figured it was something like that, but couldn't find the relevant update.

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