Kings of War Event Info

Kings of War Event info

All lists will be 2000 points unless specified otherwise beforehand. Any list may include allies via the rules in the main brb (25% of total forces, no evil with good)

In addition, we will use the “Chess Clock” Rules. Each player is allotted a total time of 1 hour. During their turn this clock counts down until their turn ends and their opponent begins (and their clock begins counting down). This continues until the game ends or you run out of time.

If you run out of time and the game is not over you have 3 options:

1: You may immediately end your turn with no penalty. If your opponent still has one or more turns remaining they may take their turns as normal. If they have more than one turn remaining they skip your turn and proceed as normal. If your opponent also runs out of time the game ends as normal.

2: You may Concede the game for a Major loss and any objectives you have currently achieved.

3: You may continue to take turns as normal until either the game ends or your opponent runs out of time, for every 5 minutes of additional time you take you lose 1 Battle Point. You may extend your allotted time up to a total of 20 minutes and no more (for a total -4 battle points)

If you have any questions regarding anything at all, feel free to send me a PM or email me at [email protected]

Scoring System For Battles

16 points for achieving a major victory (difference of more than 1000 points in your favor)
13 points for achieving a minor victory (difference of between 201 to 1000 points in your favor)
10 points for achieving a draw (difference of less than 200 points between players)
7 points for suffering a minor loss (difference of between 1000 to 201 points in your opponents favor)
4 points for suffering major loss (difference of more than 1000 points in your opponents favor)

In addition, You can obtain up to 4 points for completing various objectives for each mission.

All Judge rulings are final, if you want a second option on a ruling you may ask for one, however the judges ruling is final after this second opinion.

Hobby Challenge

Players (and Judge) will vote over lunch for which army they feel was the best representation of that months aspect of the hobby (it could be painting, conversions, theme, fluffy lists, so on). They may vote for themselves if they like. The most votes wins the Hobby Challenge.

Prize Support

The top two Battle Scores and the winner of the Hobby Challenge will win prizes. In addition, 1 extra prize will be given out by the judge at random for any reason he sees fit, each person may only win 1 prize.

Schedule
Sign up and registration 10am – 10:30am
Round 1 start 10:30am - 12:30pm
Lunch 12:30pm – 1:30pm
Round 2 start 1:30pm – 3:30pm
Round 3 start 3:30:00pm – 5:30pm
Awards 6:00pm

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This all sounds pretty awesome. I assume if you use extra time you can go negative? Like a major loss with over 20 mins more than your clock? I know that's extremely unlikely in any case, but im curious

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separate thread coming soon. (spoilers: it's the 22nd of August/4th sunday)

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This all sounds pretty awesome. I assume if you use extra time you can go negative? Like a major loss with over 20 mins more than your clock? I know that's extremely unlikely in any case, but im curious

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Ill cap it at Zero. The idea is more of a gamble for a close to draw game or that extra time to claim 2 objectives, not to recover from a devastating loss.

And it's subject to change if players find a way to abuse it.

Sounds like a good system. I'm assuming their is still objectives? Do we just keep time on our phones then?

Objectives are there (another good catch)

for right now, unless someone wants to donate Chess-clocks, Sand-glasses, Timers, Stop watches, and so on, use your phones and take notes. I don't want to hear people squabbling over a few extra seconds.

Are allies allowed? As the rule book.

I would toss in a rule about the player votes to make it same army can't win every month, something like:
Once a army wins player vote it is none elegiable to win again for two more months.

This creates a three month period giving other armies a chance to win. Also gives players time to create new armies and not have same army win all the time.

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Originally Posted by Zoro

Sounds like a good system. I'm assuming their is still objectives? Do we just keep time on our phones then?

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Great hall sells chess clocks and I bet they got cheap ones.

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Originally Posted by mathusala0

Objectives are there (another good catch)

for right now, unless someone wants to donate Chess-clocks, Sand-glasses, Timers, Stop watches, and so on, use your phones and take notes. I don't want to hear people squabbling over a few extra seconds.

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I vaguely recall seeing a bag of sand timers at DL, iirc was near the miscellaneous gaming aids/basing stuff. No idea how much time they would measure tho.

If the bags are like most small timers they are only good for 2.5mins. IE egg timers.

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Originally Posted by Geist

Great hall sells chess clocks and I bet they got cheap ones.

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If $50 - $100 is cheap for you than please buy me some.

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Are allies allowed? As the rule book.

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As the rule book allows them and I have made no note of not allowing them (and see no reason to) they are allowed.

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I would toss in a rule about the player votes to make it same army can't win every month, something like:
Once a army wins player vote it is none elegiable to win again for two more months.

This creates a three month period giving other armies a chance to win. Also gives players time to create new armies and not have same army win all the time.

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Read the post carefully.

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will vote over lunch for which army they feel was the best representation of that months aspect of the hobby

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Each month the particular aspect will change, in theory preventing the same army from being able to win the prize multiple times.

What is the hobby challenge for the first month? Are these going to posted or just random and announced the day of?

Also for the first month I don't think timers are a great idea. In the future these would work great. Everybody is new to this game and doesn't have a great feel for the rules. The last thing you want to do is put more pressure on the player and the TO. How many games of KoW have you played your self Matt? Can you answer rules in a timely fashion? I don't think anybody can. Just my thoughts. Save your attitude in your reply if you do I don't need it save it for somebody else.

That's a good point. Probably should push them to next month.

Regarding the timing of rulings, it's typical in chess, go, etc. to either stop both clocks while that is being decided on or credit time back.

Clock hater

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Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Also for the first month I don't think timers are a great idea. In the future these would work great. Everybody is new to this game and doesn't have a great feel for the rules. The last thing you want to do is put more pressure on the player and the TO. How many games of KoW have you played your self Matt? Can you answer rules in a timely fashion? I don't think anybody can. Just my thoughts. Save your attitude in your reply if you do I don't need it save it for somebody else.

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What is the hobby challenge for the first month? Are these going to posted or just random and announced the day of?

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Most likely painting as its something people will recognize. They will be posted beforehand

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Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Also for the first month I don't think timers are a great idea. In the future these would work great. Everybody is new to this game and doesn't have a great feel for the rules. The last thing you want to do is put more pressure on the player and the TO. How many games of KoW have you played your self Matt? Can you answer rules in a timely fashion? I don't think anybody can. Just my thoughts. Save your attitude in your reply if you do I don't need it save it for somebody else.

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Looking back that came off more tart than I had intended, sorry Nate.

As Caveman said, the Clocks can be paused in the interest of looking up a rule, I don't know if that's going to stick further on as there are problems with pausing for anything that isnt a phone call or bathroom. could pause to look at the rules whilst actually deciding to charge or not for instance. I don't know how much of that we'll have or if we'll have it at all though. This first month is a test run of a lot of things. (including points for various victories which i need to review)

For the First month I had planned to make chess clocks optional (or at least vote on it after signups).

We should test play with clocks next tuesday and try to fit a game into two hours

This just in Mantic has announced hard release for book rules is August 22nd. 20 days till we get books folks.

Aug22 is a Saturday

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Originally Posted by mathusala0

separate thread coming soon. (spoilers: it's the 22nd of August/4th sunday)



Ill cap it at Zero. The idea is more of a gamble for a close to draw game or that extra time to claim 2 objectives, not to recover from a devastating loss.

And it's subject to change if players find a way to abuse it.

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Should be the 23rd, the Dlair schedules have been corrected regardless.